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Post by flagrantangles on Sept 6, 2016 17:51:01 GMT 1
Hello everyone! Some people (definitely not me, if that's what you're thinking) would like to be able to do things as simple as record their own matches and perhaps provide their own internal commentary or insight. Some of those people (still definitely not me) seem to lack key knowledge about where to begin with that. I would like this thread to contain different resources and approaches to recording so that we can ideally enable as many people as possible to create content. First things first, we will obviously need some kind of software with which to record our matches. It is my understanding that Open Broadcaster Software is quite handy. The link above will allow you to download OBS Studio and OBS Classic, both of which are free, open-source software. I'm not certain which one is better for recording. I will presume that it's going to be somewhat contextual, but I have downloaded OBS Studio and fiddled around with it. I have found it mostly straightforward to use but it's become clear to me that there are many nuances and complexities to recording so I have a fair amount to learn. In addition to software, we need some kind of microphone to record our voices. Some people (still absolutely not me) may not know what kinds of things to look for when purchasing or procuring a microphone. What qualities are ideal? Are there any especial pitfalls when trying to use a microphone with recording software? Another target I'd like to hit is regarding content. Have an idea of what you'd like to accomplish or convey and then be okay with failing to reach that. It takes time and practice in order to do something well so don't be discouraged if the content you produce isn't meeting your standards. You have plenty of time to improve that. To use myself (okay, I was talking about me the whole time!) as an example, I recently recorded a match I played and I just talked through my own decision-making process. My goal was basically to never let there be any dead air. And I accomplished that. Unfortunately, I also spoke very softly into a very shitty microphone so I ended up finding some new barriers to overcome. Ultimately, I just want to emphasize that there will be a learning curve and we're all looking forward to your improvement. Finally, to bring everything together cleanly, I would appreciate anyone who would take the time to lay out the software and equipment they use in addition to any particular issues they ran into when they first started recording that way we can ideally streamline some of the learning process and enable even more of us to make Yomi content. There are only so many times I can watch all of mysticjuicer 's videos.
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Post by thehug0naut on Sept 6, 2016 18:38:56 GMT 1
This would also be super helpful to me, I'd maybe like to start recording matches etc but not sure where to start. Great idea flagrantangles
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Post by scymrian on Sept 6, 2016 19:06:20 GMT 1
I'm no giant of content-creation like one mysticjuicer or anything, what with a grand total of one Yomi video to my name, but I have just a little bit of encouragement: it doesn't take much more than desire! Some real shoe-string hardware can get a serviceable job done. One of the advantages of a game like Yomi is that it's not like we're trying to record high dexterity games in 4K at 60FPS or anysuch! I use OBS Studio. It's easy enough. Microphone-wise, I'm no genius - I just use an old Logitech webcam clipon (the C270, I think, but I'm not at home), and wear earbuds I bought from a gas station in order to make sure that there's no feedback. I was surprised by how decent my audio-quality is, despite the fact that I've owned this webcam for a few years and it's definitely been completely submerged in water at least once before. The hardest part was, for me, feeling confident enough in my knowledge of the game to think that I could commentate in a way that would be worth listening to. But, maybe doing this is one of the best ways to learn more about the game! You can't be afraid! Sorry if you wanted technical help! I ain't got that for you!
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Post by flagrantangles on Sept 6, 2016 21:47:43 GMT 1
We'll take anything we can get scymrian ! I can hardly believe, for instance, that I completely skipped over using a camera to record both your voice and face. WHOOPS. Oooh, I completely skipped over streaming as well. In that vein, @diemydarling, would you be able to enlighten us more on using Twitch to record matches and how that goes? Would you say it's relatively simple? What kinds of hurdles did you run into, if any?
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Post by "Jonny D" Jonny "Jonny D" D on Sept 7, 2016 3:46:49 GMT 1
Streaming is relatively simple, but there are bugs like Black Screens and such that can happen. I think its important to work through those issues live with an audience. Having an issue on your first few videos shouldn't really be an issue since I doubt people are that judgmental of people's early videos. Mic/Game Volume are easy to fix since the sliders are obvious. Streaming you can encounter lag I heard people recommend lowering the frame rate to like 15-20 since its a card game.
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Post by mysticjuicer on Sept 7, 2016 5:19:59 GMT 1
This thread is sick and I'm going to stay up much later than I should responding to it! Or I would, if I didn't realize that (1) I can't figure out how to add jpgs to my post to illustrate stuff in a helpful way, and (2) making a video to address the technical side (what settings in OBS that I use, basically) would be way easier! So expect a link to something by the end of the week that will get you Juicer Quality Videos (i.e. the lowest quality of video that the internet will still accept). I want to take a few minutes to just say some things about the non-technical side of things. And maybe I'll wrap some of this up in a Very Special Video as well, but for now, text! 1. Just Do It Dot Meme: I didn't know dick about Yomi except for the most super basic stuff when I started making videos. No seriously, I hadn't even really consciously figured out that the grappler neutral game is a block/throw mix-up. That's how little I knew. Basically all of my early videos, and I would say a lot of my newest videos still, are me learning how to play this game while on camera. Being up front about that - about what I know and what I don't - took a lot of the anxiety out of casting for me. I would have been uncomfortable telling people "this is how the match-up is" so instead I say "this is how I think it works" and then see if I'm right. A lot of casting is, imo, about playing the game along with the players. What do you think the mix-up is? What do you think their hands are? When in doubt, confidently predict the least likely combat reveal and then nod smugly when it happens. Then say "reads don't real" and wink at the camera 'cause you godlike. 2. Do What You Like: I really like casting. I like solo casting a lot, and then casting with others more rarely, even though it's very fun. But maybe you feel much more comfortable making stuff with other people! Or you get nervous alone and feel better knowing someone else will be there to bounce off of when it feels like there's dead air or you run out of things to say. *shrugs* Do what you like! The online competitive scene for Yomi is like 100 people. You're mostly going to be making content for people you know, and have talked to or played against. You're making something cool and your friends will show up to check it out. 3. There's A Lot Of Yomi Action: Even if you did exactly the kind of stuff that I made, we wouldn't be stepping on each others' toes. Because of how we're all spread out over the world and all have different schedules and availability, it's basically a guarantee that matches are going to be played that no one is casting. Even if a match is being cast by someone else, if you want to make a video, do it! Maybe it's a match you know more about! Maybe you know the people involved better! Maybe I'll have a cold, or I'll forget to click the 'record' button and won't even be able to put out a video (it's happened more than once)! I basically watched a bunch of Raziek, neigutten, and Southpaw Hare videos and said "fuck yeah, that looks awesome, and just easy enough that it doesn't seem scary!" And now look at me, I have dozens of subscribers! DOZENS! 4. Celebrate Every View: I think my first Yomi video had like 3 views forever? And then my second one had two? And I was like, yes, two other people watched a thing I made! And I obsessively checked (he said using past tense, as if it's changed at all since then) to see whether anyone new had subbed or a video had some more views than last week. Basically don't expect a ton of views. Don't expect people to watch videos all the way through. At least not at first. Just make stuff and see how it grows. If it grows at all! Do it because it's hella cheap, as hobbies go, if nothing else! 5. Make It As Good As You Can: Do little stuff to improve the experience for your viewer. Spend a little time editing your video - you can use YouTube's built-in editor for really simple stuff, like cutting off the pre- and post- match dead air. Pick a good screenshot for your video preview... or even the least bad of the three pre-generated options. If you're using a webcam, make sure you're kind of in the frame, and there isn't a light shining directly into the camera. Maximize your screen, and click the little arrow next to your name in the browser version so the cards are as big as they can be. Every tiny bit of additional effort you put into your content counts for something, no matter how small. 6. Come Up With Really Great Memes and Catchphrases: The tennest of throws. DrawZo: Legend of the Card Getters. Rook is bad. The Value Klaxxon. C-C-CARD ADVANTAAAAGE! All of these are golden nuggets of perfect comedy, and yet they have a quiet and powerful truth to them. They are also all protected copyrights and trademarked by the MJ Holding Corporation. I will license them to anyone for a very reasonable fee. I didn't spend hours in the writer's room brainstorming, drafting, editing, and re-drafting them so just anyone could steal them from me. I WANT MY CUT, YOU HEAR ME!? I. WANT. MY. CUT!!!
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Post by enomus on Sept 7, 2016 6:09:04 GMT 1
"Rook is bad" isn't a meme, it's factual. It's not memetic.
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Post by Bomber678 on Sept 7, 2016 17:02:13 GMT 1
I'll share my little story and small amount of experience.
I started getting into videos roughly round the start of last year, inspired by whoever was doing videos at the time (I think pickles mostly?) and because I'd been on a few streams/videos already and found it pretty fun. I then decided I might try my hand at it, and did some really bad recordings of stuff, and then sort of went "I don't really know what I'm doing. Maybe I won't bother." I mused about it somewhere on the forums and got a response of "Please make videos, I love your accent" from old mate neigutten (known these days as GG.Bergen nei). So I decided to try. This was right as I was charging through losers in FFFF, so I started out pretty basic, learning how to record things and they turned out ok! My set vs Leontes from that tournament is still one of my most viewed videos. At 70! Like wow, I'm popular.
As I went on I branched out into streaming (which isn't too hard, twitch.tv has really great starter guides to get you going) and whenever I was, I would just pull whoever was in the game or on my skype contacts into a call and have some fun while casting. My own personal recording I tend to focus more on what I'm doing, and my thoughts, rather than my silly/hype when I'm casting, with talking about the game thrown in.
As for equipment/software, I was OBS Classic I believe and a Samson Meteor Microphone.
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Post by mysticjuicer on Sept 8, 2016 1:15:52 GMT 1
Oh right, gear. Here is what you need to do recordings: any USB microphone.
Okay you're good to go!
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Post by mysticjuicer on Sept 8, 2016 3:54:35 GMT 1
mysticjuicer's guide to making the least bad videos you can
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Post by mysticjuicer on Sept 8, 2016 15:36:22 GMT 1
Incidentally after recording that I tried to up my settings to 720p and it sounded like my computer was having a heart attack, and I got a warning on OBS that the recording was causing significant CPU usage, so I watched the video to reset my settings to what they were.
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Post by flagrantangles on Sept 8, 2016 15:40:52 GMT 1
You are truly the saint of this community. We shall provide you with libations later.
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Post by mysticjuicer on Sept 9, 2016 2:55:26 GMT 1
You are truly the saint of this community. We shall provide you with libations later. Aw! You're sweet! Let me know if you have any questions about anything, obviously. But honestly I do a very limited amount of things with a very limited amount of skills.
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Post by flagrantangles on Sept 9, 2016 13:31:56 GMT 1
At this point, my biggest barrier is playing Yomi in a library. I don't really have the freedom to speak loudly enough to be recorded well. I should probably learn how to just record my voice and lay it over a silent recording of my match.
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Post by mysticjuicer on Sept 9, 2016 15:07:01 GMT 1
At this point, my biggest barrier is playing Yomi in a library. I don't really have the freedom to speak loudly enough to be recorded well. I should probably learn how to just record my voice and lay it over a silent recording of my match. It's surprisingly easy to do with just OBS and YouTube's in-built editor. I cover that in the last bit of the video.
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Post by thehug0naut on Sept 10, 2016 15:14:04 GMT 1
This thread has inspired me to ordered a webcam! Definitely going to start recording my own matches, once I get the set up working.
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Post by snoc on Sept 18, 2016 10:58:57 GMT 1
6. Come Up With Really Great Memes and Catchphrases: The tennest of throws. DrawZo: Legend of the Card Getters. Rook is bad. The Value Klaxxon. C-C-CARD ADVANTAAAAGE! All of these are golden nuggets of perfect comedy, and yet they have a quiet and powerful truth to them. They are also all protected copyrights and trademarked by the MJ Holding Corporation. I will license them to anyone for a very reasonable fee. I didn't spend hours in the writer's room brainstorming, drafting, editing, and re-drafting them so just anyone could steal them from me. I WANT MY CUT, YOU HEAR ME!? I. WANT. MY. CUT!!! Apparently I did this by accident? But in any case "because yolo" and "oh shit it worked" are now trademarks of SnocCo International PLC. Being between houses at the moment I've not been able to do any recording, but it's so easy to start. OBS Studio and my headset do the job fine. I've tried to find my niche a bit more, since I'm not that confident doing solo casts for whatever reason, whereas just vocalising my thoughts as I'm playing a tourney set is really not something I have to devote extra thought to at all, beyond remembering to press the record button at the start of the set. And then coming up with other series (D2GM, casuals and chat) was just as they came to me at the time. One thing I do feel is quite important is being predictable with my regular series. Pick a schedule and do your best to stick with it, even if the QM queue is empty or nobody's responding to your PMs to come talk crap on a Sunday afternoon.
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Post by flagrantangles on Sept 29, 2016 14:11:07 GMT 1
I did it! I made a video and even uploaded it to Youtube. I'm pretty cool. Also, I will add that I totally don't have a web camera and I'm okay with that arrangement. I don't really have a microphone either so I've just been using the one on my earbuds and that's actually much better than I expected. #madeit
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